If you have been following my discussion with John Vervaeke and Paul Vander Klay you have probably heard me mention Jonathan Pageau.
Pageau is an Icon Carver by trade, a commentator on symbolism on YouTube and devout Eastern Orthodox Christian. I met Pageau in 2017 at a Jordan Peterson speaking event. Jonathan was also a speaker there going over how art reveals patterns of being.
Honestly, at the time I had no idea what he was talking about, but Jonathan would end up doing a number of dialogues with Jordan and responses to his videos. I followed his work because as someone coming to Jordan’s work from an atheist perspective I wanted to understand how it was being interpreted from the religious side, this was the same reason I followed Paul Vander Klay.
When Pageau started engaging in Dialogues with John Vervaeke, I started to gain a deeper understanding of his approach and a better appreciation for his insights. In the process of my conversations with Paul Vander Klay and John Vervaeke I became increasingly interested in getting the chance to dialogue with Jonathan and understand his perspective more directly.
I was especially intrigued for this interview after watching Jonathan’s discussions with Rationality Rules and Adam Friend, who were both Atheist rationalists. I thought the conversations took interesting directions but suffered from being unable to accept each other’s frames.
I hoped I could manage that better and I believe I did. This turned out to be a fantastic and intriguing discussion for me that covered a lot of ground and established some good underlying foundations to bridge the mythological and scientific world view.
There was a point near the end beyond which we could not progress but I believe that in getting there, much was gained. I look forward very much to your feedback on this episode and the others we’ve had like it.